Tour FAQs

What time of year can I do a Mythical Routes Adventure?

The best time for Adventure travel in Greece is between the months of May to December. The routes can be done between January and March, but snow-pack in the mountains may keep you from doing the entire route as planned. Always consider that the Greek summer (June to August) is very hot and you might experience extreme temperatures, up to 38-45 degrees Celsius.

How long does it take to ride each route?

Most people average 150-200 km a day on mixed back-country / off-road motorcycle routes. If you can ride 6 to 8 hours every day, then most routes would take 4 to 7 days to cover, with the exception of the Athenian Riviera tour (God of Atlantis), but it depends on road and weather conditions at the time.

What ancient Greek historical sites will we visit?

We are the most scientifically qualified and technically trained Motorcycle Adventure Travel Company in Greece. Our scientific team and Tour Guides are educated at least by a higher training institution and all of what we showcase is certified by public organizations like the University of Aquila in Italy and the University of Ioannina in Greece. Our cooperation with some departments of the National Technical University of Athens (NTUA) helps us built solid adventures based on facts and scientific knowledge.

In our Tours, we will be visiting all important Hellenic archeological sites, both famous Greek jewels, and well-hidden ancient secrets.

Furthermore, our staff and guides are photography professionals and/or enthusiasts, and we are working closely with Nikon Greece. So, if requested, photography workshops or photography projects can be planned.

How difficult is the route?

All our routes are designed with the average rider in mind, so there are no single-tracks. All routes can be ridden on any adventure and/or dual-sport motorcycle. Many of the tracks are in remote areas and reach a high elevation where road maintenance is minimal if non-existent. You can expect to cover sections of road with deep ruts, loose rocks, and other challenges. You may also encounter sections that have trees or branches over the road.

What motorcycle and tires should I use?

Any adventure or dual-sport motorcycle that is road registered, carries a license plate, runs DOT approved knobby tires, is capable of carrying luggage for all the gear you will need and has a fuel range of minimum 240 km between gas stops is suitable for our routes. Keep in mind that for the most part, Greece has rocky soil, so well maintained and properly set-up suspension is required. You might have to cross a small river with very rocky soil, so weight distribution is crucial.

Read about what is the best choise for you in our article Adventure Bikes.

If your motorcycle is not ready or suitable for our tours you can always Rent a Ride from us, and choose one from the awesome BMW GS range.

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How far between gas stops?

A mileage of 200 km between refuels will get you covered in the majority of the routes, but carrying extra gas safely in Rotopax canisters is always recommended since you could deviate from the route because of extreme weather conditions.

Is there water on the route?

There are many water sources along the routes, but carrying extra water is necessary. A 3-Liter Hydration Pack will get you covered until the next water source. Some of these sources are marked on the route, but almost any running water found in Greece is suitable for drinking.

Do I have to camp?

As a general rule free-camping is not allowed in Greece, but the majority of the Greek Adventure Community is doing it. In each of our routes, we have suggestions for free-camping locations, for overnight stays in Mountain Refuges and Hotels. Hotels are always the default option, except if the client requests the one day “free-camping experience”.

Can I build a campfire?

Campfires generally speaking are not allowed but checking with local Ranger Stations to determine if they will allow it always helps. Forest fires are a real threat in Greece during summer periods and regulations that address this risk must be followed at all times.

Is there cell phone coverage along the routes?

Deep inside national forests or mountain ridges, there will be long sections with no cellular coverage at all. Getting near any of the many villages will help you get rather good reception. A satellite communication device is a good idea, as is a GPS Tracker device.

Where can I find the GPS tracks for each route?

GPS tracks for Mythical Routes Adventures will be provided the day before departure. Tracks are compatible with all modern Garmin devices.

What GPS should I use?

Any modern GPS unit capable of displaying a minimum of 500 points each is suitable for use. We are checking our tracks with handheld hiking Garmin models, but other GPS manufacturers may have units that will work fine.

Do I need paper maps when I have GPS tracks?

Bring a complete set of maps for the area you plan to ride is always a good idea when you choose to do a Self-Guided Tour. They have information about roads, water sources, mountain cabins, etc. and are an indispensable resource when the GPS device doesn’t work or is giving questionable routes. Unplanned events can occur and having paper/synthetic maps of the area can be a lifesaver.

Of course, there is no need for maps when you ride with one of our Tour Guides.

What about wild animals?

Greece is one of the safest countries concerning wild animals, with only a very small number of brown bears, wolves, and vipers. Also, 95% of snakes in Greece are completely harmless, but keep your distance just to be safe, since antivenom treatment is hard to find in remote areas. Safe food practices while camping is strongly advised.

Are your routes suitable for 4×4 vehicles?

Our routes, for the most part, are doable in ATVs and 4×4 vehicles with adequate tires and clearance. You must always keep in mind is that the trail conditions can change dramatically due to rain and flash floods which cause the roads to become difficult or even unpassable.

All of our Tours come with a leading Tour Guide rider and the possibility of a 4×4 Support Vehicle if required.

If you have any more questions, just contact us !

Adventure Bikes

Definition

We must first define the word “Adventure Bike“. A motorcycle can be attributed with the term “adventure” if it can help you live your Adventure. Your definition of Adventure that is. For some people crossing vast distances in relatively small time is an “Adventure”. For some “Adventure” doesn’t happen before they hit the trail (fire-roads mainly). Finally, there are those that just love the hard technical stuff.

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Big Twins eat miles like cookies and carry weight without any problem

The main thing all these types have in common is the period of this Adventure. We are not talking for a 20km single track here. This is “Enduro” and not “Adventure”. So we have to consider bikes that have an emphasis on long-range performance. We would exclude any 250 cc bike because they lack the ability to cruise comfortably at higher speeds (especially carrying luggage) and can have reduced engine life if ridden frequently on the highway.

Experience

Another important factor is “Experience“. Some may be completely new to riding, while others have many years of experience on other types of motorcycles. A KTM 950 Super Enduro, for example, isn’t everyone’s cup of tea.

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One of the most versatile Adventure Bikes ever built

These days, there are a lot of different Adventure Bikes on the market to choose from and choosing the right bike for your individual needs can be challenging. For the not so experienced riders, choosing a large single cylinder bike might be the best way to go. A DRZ400, KTM 690 or Husky 701 would be great when the going gets tough and have excellent all-around characteristics. Same goes for the not so gifted in body height. On the other hand, if your Adventures are 70% road / 30% off-road, then a big V-twin would be a nice bet.

The must-have list

Considering all the above, a proper “Adventure Bike” is the one that takes you to new far away locations, lets you spend at least a night under the stars, makes your life easy when unexpected things keep coming your way (it’s an adventure, remember?), makes you feel alive and happy. So, a proper Adventure Bike should:

  1. Be able to carry all your gear. Camping gear, clothes, extra fuel, personal hygiene stuff, etc.
  2. Have good tune-able off-road suspension. The gear that you carry varies in every adventure ride you take, so should the suspension change.
  3. Have at least a 7500 km oil change interval.
  4. Have at least a 250 km fuel range (a 400-450 km range would be just perfect).
  5. Have 50-100 hp for off-road use. There is absolutely no need for 160+ hp behemoths in the middle of a forest!
  6. Be less than 200 kg fully loaded. This is really difficult to accomplish when opting for large cc twins, but in the world of Adventure-Biking, we all have to make compromises according to our needs, the terrain that we are going to travel and the gear that we want to carry.
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Try getting out of this!

Always keep in mind that if you can not pick up your bike fully loaded in any situation, then it is not an adventure bike!

Hard or Soft Luggage?

Adventure Riding is all about mountains, trails, forests. So we have to be rather sufficient out there. First questions that comes in mind is “what do I carry with me?”. Soon enough the next important question arrives: “where do I pack my things?”.

There are loads of things to carry … clothes, tent, mattress, food, extra fuel and basically almost every item in our Packing List.

Hard Aluminum Panniers

The first answer that pops up is Hard Aluminum Panniers, that are very much advertised and quite expensive. Everywhere around us we see motorcycles “ready for adventure” equipped with two side aluminum panniers and a top box. A key advantage of Hard Aluminum Panniers is that it is possible to lock and insure our things if we want to move away from the motorcycle. Also, if we have been equipped with inner bags, we can transfer our existing, without being obliged to remove the bags from the motorcycle. Finally our belongings are protected from the weather, particularly rain. But these are the only advantages that they have and since in Adventure Riding sooner or later the bike will get dropped, there start their problems!

Aluminum panniers are a common choice for many riders

Usually after the first “good” fall, aluminum will get dented and twisted, with the result that the cap no longer fits perfectly with the body of the pannier. Even a few millimeters of deviation is enough to not let them seal properly and start letting the rain and dust go inside, with all that this implies … Certainly with a hammer and enough perseverance they can be restored relatively close to their original shape, but waterproofness is over for ever!

Second main issue we have with Aluminum Panniers is weight! They are very heave to begin with (even without anything inside them) and add to that the weight of all the necessary metal racks on which they have to mount, it results in an overweight adventure motorcycle that is extremely difficult to maneuver in Off-road conditions. It is difficult even to pick up!

Last problem with Aluminum Panniers is the injury possibility! There are a few cases of riders being injured in their legs when, during a fall, their boot got trapped beneath the aluminum pannier.

Hard Plastic Panniers

In an effort to reduce the high cost and weight of the aluminum panniers, one can resort to the solution of plastic panniers/saddlebags.When riding on-road this is a good option indeed. But Adventure riding is all about gravel road exploration and when we put plastic panniers in this situation, thing can and will got horribly bad very soon.

Hard Panniers taking a beating

The plastic side cases (regardless of manufacturer) are not designed to take the stress of a hard dirt road, nor to survive after collision with stones and other immovable elements of mother nature. On a recent trip, the three motorcycles equipped with plastic panniers had many problems. The first broke the locking-base of the suitcase at the first drop and the second broke the mounting-base only by driving the route and without falling!

Soft Luggage

When it comes to off-road adventures, weight and capability to keep your gear safe from water, dust, mud and snow become a priority. With soft luggage you do not need frames to attach them, resulting in a significant weight reduction. They are flexible so they can absorb impacts without compromising their construction integrity or loosing their waterproof characteristics. In the event of a tear, some of them can be repaired on the spot using repair kits. They can also protect both your motorcycle and your legs working as pillows for when you eventually hit the forest floor

Enduristan Blizzard Saddle Bags are light, tough and 100% waterproof – ideal for our adventures!

Our experience has shown us that when you are about to venture for an off-road adventure, the only way to go is Soft Luggage, whose only downside is the lack of lock feature, both of their content and the bags themselves on the motorcycle. Beyond that, they have only advantages:

  • Purchase cost is significantly lower than any metal solution.
  • They are unbelievably light weight. There is usually the possibility to attach them directly on our motorcycle without metal frames, so the behavior of our motorcycle is closer to the behavior without luggage. Always remember that weight is the main problem in Off-road riding!
  • They are 100% waterproof since they usually have a roll-top design.
  • The eventual drop of the bike will not end in tears, since the variable of their shape allows them to adapt to the soil and not get damaged by the fall.
  • In the process they protect the motorcycle as well, acting like a soft pillow.
  • Their materials are durable and designed to withstand extensive and harsh use.
  • In the event of a hole or tear after rubbing on asphalt or bumping into a blunt object, they can get repaired on the trail, simply and with permanent results. Most companies sell repair kits for their products.
  • There are size and shape combinations for all tastes and all kinds of motorcycle.
  • Finally they adapt to all kinds of motorcycles, so they easily switch between different motorcycles that we may have.